MC #52: Terminator Salvation vs. The Franchise

MovieChatterThis week, Andrew and Morgan take a look back at the first three Terminator films and explore how the franchise flows together as a whole.  They then dive into a deep analysis of Terminator Salvation, and decide whether or not it's worthy of the Terminator label.  Also discussed: The Passion of Joan of Arc, The Wild Bunch, In Treatment, and more.

Click after the break for detailed show notes.


MC #52: Terminator Salvation
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REMINDER: This will be the last regularly-formatted episode of MovieChatter for the next 5 weeks, though content will still be published. MovieChatter will resume its usual episode format at the beginning of July.

SHOW NOTES:

1:57 – Announcements

What We've Seen:

3:14 – The Passion of Joan of Arc (Morgan)
5:47 – The Wild Bunch (Morgan)
9:03 – In Treatment, Season 1 (Andrew)

Franchise Review: Terminator

12:41 – Intro
16:01 – Morgan’s general thoughts
18:10 – Why Morgan loves Terminator 3
20:03 – Characterization through terminator reaction shots
21:50 – Andrew’s general thoughts
22:45 – Why Andrew loves Terminator 2
25:07 – How well does the trilogy flow together?
29:35 – Real props vs. CGI
31:10 – Thoughts and rating of Terminator
32:53 – Thoughts and rating of Terminator 2: Judgment Day
35:38 – Thoughts and rating of Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines

Discussion: Terminator Salvation (spoiler-free)

38:25 – Intro
41:29 – Morgan’s general thoughts/rant
44:33 – Andrew’s general thoughts
46:58 – The human resistance, whatever it is
49:23 – The development (or lack thereof) of John Connor
51:48 – Anton Yelchin as Kyle Reese
53:38 – Marcus as the central character
54:50 – The action scenes
57:27 – Closing thoughts before entering spoiler territory

Discussion: Terminator Salvation (spoilers)

1:00:12 – Another movie that doesn’t make sense!
1:01:51 – Marcus’ introduction makes no sense!
1:04:09 – The romance/cuddling makes no sense!
1:05:40 – Kyle’s reaction to Marcus makes no sense!
1:06:40 – The subplot with Kyle Reese makes no sense!
1:07:54 – A cool moment with an old friend, and infiltration
1:08:56 – A lack of genuine feeling
1:10:38 – Marcus’ actions at the end make no sense!
1:11:34 – Helena Bonham Carter makes no sense!
1:13:00 – The resolution makes no sense!
1:16:23 – The script and screenwriters

DVD Recommendations

1:19:53 – Heat (Andrew)
1:21:18 – The Hunt For Red October (Morgan) + Terminator Salvation’s submarine

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